This page is in response to the ever increasing interest in the Garmin Edge 705.
Rather than trawl through 560 odd comments and replies which takes an evening I am told, far easy to read this page. It is the summation of mine and everybody’s input. It’s going to take a while but will cover all aspects of the 705.
You can download and install the latest versions of the software before take delivery of your Edge in most cases. MapSource updates require an original. Comment from Stuart : You can get around Garmin saying you have to have an original Mapsource before applying the latest version as an update by unzipping the download file, then running MSMAIN.MSI then SETUP.EXE
You need a map of some sort to make your Garmin Edge 705 function. The decision you have to make is whether to buy DVD based map or a plugin MicroSD card map. DVD maps need installing and then loading on to your 705 or memory card. The advantage of a DVD map is that you can plan routes in Mapsource and you can see them in TrainingCentre.
SD card maps are plug and play. They have the auto routing built into them along with all the points of interest (POI). This includes garages, restaurants, cash machines etc. They have a novelty value but you didn’t buy your 705 for them.
The SD card map can be uploaded in MapSource by renaming a copy of it as PCbasemap. I’ll up load a link to a tutorial. It is not for the novice computer user and things can go wrong.
If you’ve come to a 705 via the Ordnance Survey digital mapping programs like Memorymap, Trackogs or Anquet in the UK you are going to be very disappointed with TopoGB. The level of detail that you get is very inferior to digital or paper maps as Garmin uses a vector system and OS maps are raster images. (Things are better with the Garmin Edge 800 as it uses a different mapping system where you get the raster OS maps with the routable Vector maps beneath the the OS overlay.)
To get you Garmin Edge to work straight out of the box you need to update your programs, drivers and firmware straight away. Without Garmin Communicator installed other programs won’t see your new toy as a device. So you can’t import or export anything.
TrainingCenterVer 3.5.3with AntAgent 2.2
Garmin Edge705 Ver 3.20 GPS 2.10
GarminCommunicator PluginVer 2.9.2
Mapinstall Ver 3.14.2
Routing Software and Websites
It should be apparent that Garmin don’t do very good routing software. That’s being polite, I’ve met a number of you who expressed it in harder terms. Fortunately there are others out there that do do good routing software and there are a lot of great websites out there.
First off you need to know the difference between a Route and a Course
Your Edge has a 100 waypoints limit. You use the waypoints to mark the turns on your Route. You Navigate the Route from Waypoint to Waypoint.
I’ve done rides up to 200 km using this method and it is entirely different to riding a course.
Routes rely on as the crow flies (straight line) navigation between Waypoints. The compass always points to the next waypoint. When you follow the route as long as the compass screen is always roughly pointing forward you are on Route. If it is 90 degrees to you something is amiss. This can be within a 100 metres of the waypoint.
A Waypoint will bleep and give you a countdown to the waypoint in distance and seconds.
It’s a great way to ride if you are on limited resources ala Garmin Edge 305.
See the Route planning Tutorial on this site for planning and riding a Route.
A Course can consist of 17000 trackpoint. It can be a saved ride. It can be planned in Mapsource, Digital OS maping software and the Google map based websites. You can race against the virtual partner as it contains speed info as well as position. File size is a lot bigger than a Route GPX file. You can save multiple Courses on a Memory Card. I’ve a dozen on mine. You can also convert your riding history to a Course within the Edge.
Riding a Course is not the same as riding a Route.
Your essentially reriding another ride. The only time the Edge 705 bleeps at you is when you go OFF Course. Don’t press enter but retrace your steps to rejoin the Course. Your Edge will say Course Found and the black triangle will be back on the pink Course track.
There is a musical fanfare when you complete the Course.
The Course is the pink line in the photo above selected from Training/Course, List. Then Do Course box
Save your Courses to the Courses folder on the Edge 705, not your Memory card. They should be in .TCX format. Limit of 50 Courses.
CoursePoints are what your Edge is all about. They are Icons built into a lot Garmin Navigation products. There is a limited number to choose from and there is another 100 CoursePoint limit.
They behave similar to a waypoint in that they bleep at you when you arrive at one.
This is where you have to abandon Garmin products to add CoursePoints to your Course.
You can only add CoursePoints in Garmin TrainingCenter and with a PCBasemap that isn’t an option.
This is where the GoogleMaps based sites come to the fore, particularly WWW.BikeRouteToaster.com
BRT does CoursePoints as well as trackpoints, you can set which side of the road an how far from the centre you ride.
It auto routes you and automatically puts the right CoursePoint at a junction. Along with warning Coursepoints before the junction it is a great bit of software.
Another reason to use Coursepoints is when you are actually doing a Course you get another screen with extra datafields on it relating to the Course. Such as Time to Course, Distance to CoursePoint, ETA and so on.
http://www8.garmin.com/products/trainingcenter/This is where all your ride data is stored. I’ve got nearly three years worth of rides and spinning classes from an Edge 305, Edge 705 and a Forerunner 50. You can overlay rides and compare all the data from the ride.
It comes with a PCBasemap which is useless. Once you get a Garmin Map installed things become a lot better. You can save your ride History as a Course and use the Course point tool to add Coursepoints.
This is the only way you can add Coursepoints with Garmin Software.
Personally I wouldn’t bother it’s easier to use BikeRouteToaster to plan one.
The file format used by Training Center is .TCX which is Edge specific. Along with Latitude and Longitude it contains heartrate and cadence data. Your digital mapping software probably won’t recognise this format yet but it will recognise a GPX file. You need to convert the TCX file to a GPX file with a conversion tool like TCXConverter.
TCXConverter opens in a new window.
Tracklogs now supports the Edge 705 for file transfer as it supports the .tcx format. (this page has looked out of date on the google searches because it autosaved an early version.) You can upload your history as it now sees the .tcx history files in your device.
Course(.crs) to Course(.tcx) Conversion
If you have graduated from the 305 or get routes from other sites that don’t support the .TCX format you neeed to convert your Courses from .crs to .tcx. This is not that easy as the format conversion programs are some way behind the format changes. Garmin Communicator enabling helps in the file transfer as the 705 is a file based device.
I have about 120 Courses on Motionbased from 305 rides that I can’t transfer into my 705 unless I use a conversion program.
After a fair bit of searching this seems the easiest at the moment. WWW.GPSies.com
It allows conversion between the .crs format to the .tcx format which your 705 will see as a course in the Courses folder.
It is an important jump, I hadn’t seen it as a problem as I tended not to reride a Course. If you get a Course (.crs) off an organiser it becomes a big problem trying to get it into a 705.
Vulcan Nerve Pinch
Dead Edges may need the Vulcan nerve pinch to revive them. Power and the lap button for a soft rest for a couple of seconds should see you back in business. Not so much a problem now but playing dead was an issue for early users. Can’t remember the pinch on a ride , big problem.
A big problem if you’ve just bought your Edge as you think it’s broke, cue panic and irate calls to customer services.
Power and Mode button for 3 seconds will bring up a box with “Do you really want to erase all user data”. This clears your Profile and all your History.
Ride History not saving to Compter
If you’ve a ride that won’t save to your History, save it as a Course on the 705 before you you do a hard reset as it will all be lost
Using your 705 at night. You can ride a Course at night and use CoursePoints to warn you of the turns. The Edge turns the backlight on when it gives a warning signal. This can be a Waypoint, CoursePoint, OffCourse or paused message. It’ll stay lit for the length of the backlight timer setting.
If you want to see the screen at night pressing the power button once will bring the backlight to 50% as will the toggle button, sideways will not alter the screen your on.
I’ve been having profile sync problems for a while this is the answer thanks to Motionbased.
Start – My Computer – C:\ – Documents and Settings – All Users – Application data (to get this folder to appear, you may need to click the following: Tools – Folder Options – View – Show Hidden Files and
Folders) – Garmin – Training Center.
In this folder you will find a file called UserProfile.bin. Delete this file and then connect the unit again. Choose to keep the profile on the unit, and the problem may then be solved.
It worked fine for moi.
Register for GarminConnect, it’s only now starting to be useful. You can upload your rides and runs to be stored online. Has a player module that plays the ride in Google maps that can be exported for others to see. Would be great if it included a Route or Course planning function.
Steer clear of Mapsource if you have an Edge 705. It doesn’t support the .TCX format will only import Waypoints and you can only save as a .GPX format. Fine if you have a 305 and want to plan a Route but a 305 doesn’t support a Garmin Map.
You only need it if you have a version of a DVD map or want to rename a copy of the SD Card map as the PCBasemap so you can see it in Training Centre.
OSM are free Garmin compatible maps. The mapomatic ones include NCR cycleroutes but the link doesn’t work as I write this.
Now Routable and with contours.
Worldwide free maps for your Garmin.
Route and Course Planning Sites
Plenty out there but one worth a visit is WWW.BikeHike.co.uk
BikeHike allows a 705 user to use the new GPXX format. This allows you to plan a ride as a Course but ride it like a Route. The advantage of this is that you get an unlimeted number of hardpoints which behave like a CoursePoints.
There is also a Window with an Ordnance Survey map so planning from a Routsheet becomes a bit easier and you don’t have to purchase a digital map. Rides are Navigated as Saved ride as a 705 doesn’t support Routes.
Auto plots CoursePoints and Warning points similar to WWW.BikeRouteToaster.Com
WWW.Marengo.com Site for Planning a Route based on naming WayPoints as the turn direction. 100 waypoint limit which it won’t let you excede. I started out with my 305 using this site. Before you dismiss it, it still has it’s place but you need to know and understand the difference between a Route and a Course.
It only supports GPX Routes.
Version 2.70 problems. Post from Nick about 2.70 problems and a link back to 2.60
Hi Frank! On numerous occasions, this site has been of great help to me, and reading the other posts, of great help to a lot of others also. I recently asked about problems with the latest web update (v2.70) from Garmin.
I have now found out from Garmin that they have found an error in the update and that it is corrupting some tcx. files and therefore not allowing your history to be updated on Garmin Connect. All you need to do, is open your Garmin folder, Then History and delete all the tcx. files. Alternatively, you can forward all the files to product support at Garmin and they will “clean” them and send them back. They also gave me a link to revert back to the old update. http://www8.garmin.com/software/Edge605_705_260.gcd I do hope you dont mind me putting this on here, but i felt obliged after the help i have received from your goodself! Thanks, Nick Jordan
Version 2.80 now out supposed to clear the unsaved rides problem. WARNING clears all your data.
I’ve had a lot of grief with 2.80 over the last day or so with the Edge not uploading files to TrainingCenter or GarminConnect. The root of the problem was that Version 2.70 or 2.80 deleted the History Folder and although the files were still in Edge memory they wouldn’t transfer across.
Garmin Learning Centre
New site with Utube videos of how to get to grips with your new toy.
Above is a new link to Youtube tutorials.
It’s a start but needs to be a lot bigger.
Lattitude and Longitude
Handy to have for when you need to be rescued.
Settings/Units/Position Format hddd.ddddd
There are numerous map grid systems depending where you are.
You can find your location by going to Map mode and moving the toggle. Another way is to save a waypoint.
Good but not foolproof. Make sure you keep the rubber USB cover on as all sorts of nasties happen when water gets in. Likewise the microSD card cover and slot. Rain will get in eventually and this will wreck your ability to use an SD card map. Get it wet while out on a ride and you start to loose the map and your ride data. This isn’t funny on a 100mile ride never mind a wet one.
Cadence Sensor. When you have more than 1 every time you swap your Edge between bikes you should rescan the cadence sensor in the Acessories menu. Likewise if you have more than two HRM’s.
20 June 2010 I’ve only just re-enabled comments on this page so if you want to get your name up in lights I’ll give you credit for stuff for that gets added to the guide.
27 June 2010 Lots of new software updates from Garmin
31 Aug 2010 Flickr photos of screen shots to be added. At least you will be able to see what menu you need to be in.
Once you’ve had a comment approved you’ll be able to comment again without needing approval again.
History Bug Ver 3.20
Dave has alerted me to a ride history bug in 3.20.
If you leave your Edge on after a ride and don’t save any data before you let the battery go flat YOU WILL LOOSE ALL YOUR DATA. I thought I’d had a rough time of things with loosing my Etape training ride but Dave lost his actual Col climb data for his holiday in France.
Trust me you’ll try anything to get that sort of data back, it’s priceless.
Dave has rolled back to Ver 2.90 which is stable for him. I was lucky enough to have a hotel with WiFi but I’d be really gutted to loose any ride no matter what it was.
From GarminConnect Forum member MS.BLUEBERRY
Once you have plugged your 705, you just have to replace file called X:\Garmin\gupdate.GCD with a 3.10 version. After that, the device will reboot and will ask you to confirm that you want to install an older version than the one currently installed. If you confirm, you will have to re-enter all your settings. That’s it ! (I just did it without any problems)
Be sure you rename it to gupdate.GCD before copying to the Garmin
Worked fine for me too. Thanks to Michael for the Garmin link.
Garmin Maps on the USD Card
Thanks to anon for posting. 09Mar 2011
Hi Frank, just thought I would update you as I have now been shown by Garmin how to uninstall the maps from the Edge and install them on the SD card which leaves the entire memory of the Edge for recording my routes. When saving the maps they said “When you go to transfer mapping, it will ask where you wish to save the mapping. Typically there will be a drop down list, here you will need to select the SD card instead of the Edge device”
I did this and it worked so I replied “Many thanks for that, I now appear to have saved the maps to the SD card but can’t work out how to delete them from the Edge. I uploaded them from the device in Mapsource thinking it might remove them from the Edge but it didn’t. Any ideas?” Their response was prompt and said “If you connect the device to your
computer and find it as a removable device, double click on the Garmin
icon then double click on the Garmin folder. This is where you will find
the mapping uploaded to the unit. The mapping file will be named
GMAPSUPP.img. If you are going to delete the mapping, only delete that
I have followed their instructions and it worked so I now have the maps I want on the SD card and the routes I saved are on the Edge. Hopefully this info will help others too.
Waiting for my 705 to be repaired/exchanged under Garmins repair policy. 09 Mar 2011.
06 may Received an as new exchange unit with a turnaround of about 4 days.
Cost was £102 as it was well outside of the warranty. Served me very well all said and done.
Working on a OSM mapping install tutorial for those that don’t want to lash out on a Garmin map.